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Iran War Speeds Up the Trickiest Part of the Clean Energy Transition

Professor Emily Grubert joins the Zero podcast to discuss the difficulty of maintaining fossil-fuel supplies while clean energy is ramped up.

Wind turbines in Spain

Photographer: Angel Garcia/Bloomberg

Everywhere you look, you see two types of technology existing side-by-side. One that runs on fossil fuels and one that runs on clean electricity. There’s an ongoing struggle between the two, a tug of war between two very different futures.

Some call it the mid-transition, and it comes with costs that make it politically fraught. This week on Zero, Emily Gruber, professor of sustainable energy policy at the University of Notre Dame, tells Akshat Rathi how to navigate the mid-transition, and the better energy system that exists on the other side.