Austan Goolsbee Explains the Fed’s Big Rate Cut
And where the risks are now.
Austan Goolsbee, president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
Photographer: Vincent Alban/BloombergIn 2022 and 2023, the Federal Reserve basically had one focus: defeating inflation. That's now changed. Keeping inflation at bay is still important, but the Fed is now attuned to labor market risks as well. On this episode of the podcast, we speak with Chicago Fed President Austan Goolsbee about how the US economy achieved something that almost nobody thought was possible: a marked decline in inflation without a major increase in the unemployment rate or a slowdown in economic activity. We discuss what actually happened to the economy over the last four years. What was the role of monetary policy in bringing down inflation? How much of the inflation turned out to be transitory all along? And what are the risks today, with the September jobs report having come in much stronger than expected? He explains why the Fed has shifted its priority and how he's thinking of risk management at this point in the economic cycle. This transcript has been lightly edited for clarity.
Key insights from the pod:
On the hot jobs number — 4:09
Jobs and the risk of a hard landing — 6:17
Data-dependency while getting ahead of the curve — 10:51
Interest rate sensitivity of the economy — 13:19
How rate cuts transmit through the economy — 16:45
Looking back at Team Transitory — 20:02
The importance of inflation expectations — 21:27
Why housing costs are still high — 23:55
The impact of higher rates on housing — 27:09
The risk of high inflation returning — 29:43
What would give Goolsbee pause in cutting rates — 35:13
How restrictive are rates really? — 39:14