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  • 00:00JOINING ME RIGHT NOW, CEO OF THRIVE, ARIANNA HUFFINGTON. GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK WITH US. SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE THESE COMPANIES COMMITTING TO DO? ARIANNA: BASICALLY, THEY ARE COMMITTING, DURING THESE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES AHEAD, NOT TO CUT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OFFERINGS THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYEES. AS YOU KNOW, EMILY, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREDIBLE INCREASE, OVER 90 COMPANIES, HAVE INCREASED THEIR MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OFFERINGS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS EVERY COMPANY PRACTICALLY BECAME A HEALTH CARE COMPANY. THESE ARE AMAZING ADVANCES. AS COMPANIES ARE MAKING TOUGH DECISIONS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A REAL COMMITMENT NOT TO CUT DOWN THESE FUNDAMENTAL SERVICES, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IS SEEN AS THE SECOND PANDEMIC. AND WE WERE THRILLED WITH THE RESPONSE. WITHIN A WEEK WE GOT OVER 80, BOTH FORTUNE 10 COMPANIES, AND HIGH-GROWTH STARTUPS, TO JOIN THE PLEDGE AND SIGN-UP. EMILY: WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH LATELY. IT ' S ALSO BEING BLAMED FOR GUN VIOLENCE. I ' M CURIOUS IF YOU THINK THIS ISSUE IS BEING POLITICIZED. ARIANNA: WELL, MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS ISRAEL. -- IS REAL. AND EVERYTHING IS BEING POLITICIZED TODAY. BUT THE TRUTH IS WE HAVE SEEN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS OF DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY. AND THAT WE KNOW THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE BY CHANGING OUR EVERYDAY HABITS AROUND SLEEP, AROUND FOOD, AROUND THE THOUGHTS WE HOLD IN OUR HEADS, TO CHANGE OUTCOMES. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS COMPANIES ARE DOING, BEYOND JUST THE MEDICAL INTERVENTION IF THINGS GET REALLY BAD. THERE IS A LOT WE CAN DO ABOUT PREVENTION. EMILY: SO, THE QUESTION IS HOW, AND OFTEN HOW MUCH, IS OUR OWN TECH-OBSESSED CULTURE MAKING ALL OF THIS WORSE? YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT FACEBOOK, AND NOW META, WHICH AS WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING EARLIER, IS BEING SUED ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR KNOWINGLY COAXING TEENS INTO DIFFERENT FORMS OF ADDICTION. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT NARRATIVE? ARIANNA: SO OBVIOUSLY I DO NOT KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE LAWSUIT, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW, AND WHAT EVERY PARENT KNOWS, IS THAT MANAGING THE RELATIONSHIP OF THEIR CHILDREN TO TECHNOLOGY, TO SOCIAL MEDIA, IS REALLY HARD. YOU AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR NINE-YEAR-OLD SON, AND HOW LONG CAN YOU WAIT BEFORE HE EVEN GETS A PHONE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BASED ON OBSERVATION. AT THRIVE, WE LAUNCHED A DEDICATED CURRICULUM CALLED THRIVE IN KIDS. BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMPANIES WE WORK WITH, PFIZER, SAW THE CONCERN THAT WORKING PARENTS ARE HAVING OVER THE RELATIONSHIP OF THEIR CHILDREN TO THEIR PHONES, TO SOCIAL MEDIA. THEY ARE GROWING AT SKYROCKETING RATES, DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AMONG CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS. EMILY: IT IS A HUGE ISSUE AND I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT MORE CLOSELY. I ALSO HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT SHERYL SANDBERG, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE CLOSE FRIENDS, AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS GREAT RESIGNATION HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. AND SOME PEOPLE DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE SHERYL SANDBERG BE PART OF IT. WERE YOU SURPRISED HOW LONG SHE STAYED, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INSIGHTS AS TO WHY SHE LEFT, AND NOW? ARIANNA: I AM VERY, VERY PROUD OF HER FOR TAKING THAT STEP. EMILY, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WOMEN, AND SO OFTEN I TALK TO FRIENDS IN BIG CORPORATE JOBS WHO STOPPED REALLY FEELING THAT THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO BE DOING. BUT SO MANY WOMEN -- AND MEN, BUT ESPECIALLY WOMEN, BECOME SO IDENTIFIED WITH THEIR JOBS. AND WE KNOW FROM EVERYTHING SHERYL HAS DONE BEYOND FACEBOOK, WITH HER WORK WITH OPTION B, HELPING PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED LOSS TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES, THAT THIS IS AN AMAZING NEW CHAPTER FOR HER. AND I PROFOUNDLY BELIEVE THAT LIFE COMES IN CHAPTERS. I HAVE HAD MANY CHAPTERS MYSELF. AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS DEBATING LAUNCHING THRIVE, I CALLED SHERYL AND SHE GAVE ME THE ADVICE TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH, CLOSE MY EYES, AND JUST JUMP. THESE CHANGES, THESE JUMPS, REQUIRE COURAGE. IT IS ALWAYS EASIER TO STAY WHERE YOU ARE, ESPECIALLY ONE STAYING WHERE YOU ARE IS A HUGE JOB. EMILY: WELL, THAT IS A PERFECT SEGUE TO MY NEXT QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT OWNING A MEDIA COMPANY, AND I AM SO CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT YOU EN MASSE -- ABOUT ELON MUSK AND HIS BID TO BUY TWITTER. I KNOW YOU GAVE HIM ADVICE TO SLEEP MORE. ANY ADVICE FOR HIM NOW? DO YOU THINK HE IS A GOOD OWNER? WILL HE BE A GOOD OWNER FOR TWITTER, IF IT HAPPENS? ARIANNA: FIRST OF ALL, EMILY, ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT A COMPANY LIKE TWITTER, THAT ARRIVES ON DRAMA AND CONFLICT, IS ENGULFED IN MORE DRAMA AND CONFLICT WITH A MAN WHO ENJOYS DRAMA AND CONFLICT? I ' M ACTUALLY MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN ELON ' S DECISION TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK TO THE OFFICE FULL-TIME. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BECOME A VERY KEY DECISION FOR COMPANIES. FOR ME, WHAT IS BEING MISSED FROM THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHERE PEOPLE ARE WORKING IS HOW THEY ARE WORKING. AGAIN, IN THE SAME WAY WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH PLEDGE, WE WANT TO AVOID REGRESSING INTO THE PRE-TIM -- PRE-PANDEMIC PAST. THE SAME APPLIES HERE. WE NEED TO AVOID REGRESSING INTO CULTURES DRIVEN BY BURNETT. AND -- BY BURNOUT. THAT MEANS WHETHER PEOPLE WORK IN A HYBRID ENVIRONMENT, REMOTE, OR BACK IN THE OFFICE, EVERYBODY HAS TO BE MUCH MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE NEW WORK ORDER. WE CANNOT PRETEND THAT WE CAN UNRING THE BELL, THAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORKED REMOTE AND DID A LOT OF GOOD WORK. BUT WE NEED TO BECOME A LOT MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT BUILDING THE SOCIAL CAPITAL THAT WE DO LOSE WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT PHYSICALLY TOGETHER ALL THE TIME. AND THAT MEANS NOT HAVING PEOPLE COME BACK TO THE OFFICE TO TAKE ZOOM CALLS FROM THEIR CUBICLES. AND THAT ' S A PRIORITY FOR US AT THRIVE, BEING MUCH MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT ON GORDON -- ABOUT ONBOARDING. BEING MUCH MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT HYBRID RITUALS, LIKE SOMETHING WE CALL RESET, WHERE PEOPLE CREATE THEIR OWN 60 SECOND RESET OF WHAT GIVES THEM JOY AND SHARE THEM WITH TEAMMATES. A LOT OF WORK HAS TO BE DONE TO NAVIGATE THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
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