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00:00ABOUT HOW TRUMPS POPULIST UPRISING BROUGHT HIM TO THE WHITE HOUSE. PERHAPS THE MOST SURPRISING ASPECT OF THE MAP WAS HOW WELL HE DID IN THE UPPER MIDWESTERN STATES. MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN, PENNSYLVANIA -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS CONSIDERED MIDWESTERN, BUT THESE SORT OF RUST BELT TYPE OF STATES. THERE WERE HINTS OF THAT, THAT HE MIGHT DO WELL LATE IN THE CAMPAIGN BECAUSE WE SAW ALL THESE CAMPAIGN STOPS FROM CLINTON AND OBAMA. THAT CANNOT HAVE BEEN HOW THEY WANTED TO ALLOCATE THEIR LAST WEEKEND. WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE STATES? >> THIS ELECTION LAST NIGHT EATERY DESK EASILY THE MOST STAGGERING POLITICAL UPSET IN RECENT HISTORY, AND YOU POINTED OUT THE STORY -- THE RUST BELT STATES, GREAT LAKES STATES, AND THE UPPER MIDWEST. TRUMP WON MICHIGAN, A STATE OBAMA WON BY 10 POINTS IN 2012, WISCONSIN, WHICH OBAMA WON BY SEVEN POINTS, AND WISCONSIN, A STATE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WIN AND HAVE FAILED TO. THESE STATES WERE TURNED THE BLUE WALL, THAT REPUBLICANS WERE NOT ABLE TO WIN SINCE THE 1980'S. TRUMP NOT ONLY PUT CRACKS IN THAT WALL BUT ABSOLUTELY SHATTERED IT. THE BIGGEST THING POLLS MISSED WAS TRUMP'S STRENGTH AMONG PARTICULARLY NON-COLLEGE-EDUCATED WHITE VOTERS IN THOSE STATES . AMONG NON-COLLEGE-EDUCATED WHITE MEN, IT WAS 72%, ABSOLUTELY DECIMATING DEMOCRATS. SCARLET: THAT IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. WHICH OTHER GROUPS DID HE MAKE INROADS INTO THAT WE DID NOT EXPECT? I READ SOMEWHERE LATINO MEN, EDUCATED WHITE WOMEN -- MATT: HOW DOES HE WIN FLORIDA? SCARLET: A LOT MORE FLOCKED TO TRUMP THEN WE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. >> TRUMP SURPRISINGLY OUTPERFORMED MITT ROMNEY BY A COUPLE OF POINTS AMONG HISPANIC VOTERS AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAW THAT COMING, BUT THE BIG STORY IS THESE VOTERS STAYED HOME. THE TYPES OF VOTERS DEMOCRATS RELY ON, AND HILLARY CLINTON NEEDED THEM IN HUGE MARGINS TO COME OUT. THEY DID IN 2012 AND IN 2008 OR OBAMA. THEY DID NOT SHOW UP YESTERDAY AND THAT WAS THE REASON SHE LOST. AS FOR THE POLLS FROM THE OTHER STATES, THEY WERE NOT TOO FAR OFF. TRUMP WON A NUMBER OF TOSSUP SWING STATES WHICH WERE CRITICAL TO HIS PAST -- HIS PATH . IT REALLY HIT A NERVE, AND A THINK EVERYBODY ESTIMATED THE EXTENT TO WHICH THAT WOULD POWER HIS SHOWING IN THOSE STATES. JOE: WHO IS THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TODAY? >> YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE. DEMOCRATS HAD A HUGE, HUGE MOMENT OF RECKONING RIGHT NOW. SONY PEOPLE IN THE POLITICAL AND MEDIA CLASS HAVE BEEN PREOCCUPIED TALKING ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS' PROBLEMS WITH MINORITY VOTE IS WHEN WE FORGOT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S PROBLEMS WITH THE ONE GROUP THAT RELIABLY VOTES IN ELECTIONS, AND THAT IS WHITE VOTERS. I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY WILL COME OUT OF IT OR LEARN FROM IT, BUT THE PATH THEY ARE ON RIGHT NOW IS UNSUSTAINABLE. THEY THOUGHT THIS COALITION OF MINORITIES, MILLENNIALS, AND UNMARRIED WOMEN THAT HOWARD OBAMA TWICE WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE AND REGULARLY TURN OUT IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT GROUP IS NOT RELIABLE TO TURN OUT UNLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA'S NAME IS ON THE BALLOT, AND THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR THE PARTY. SCARLET: I KEEP READING ABOUT THE WHITE WORKING CLASS, ESPECIALLY WHITE NON-COLLEGE-EDUCATED MEN, VOTING FOR TRUMP, AND THAT WILL BE LESS POWERFULLY VOTING BLOC NEXT TIME AROUND. DEMOCRATS, BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THEY REPRESENT MINORITIES AND LIBERAL COLLEGE-EDUCATED WOMEN WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION. IS THAT NOT THE CASE? >> THAT IS CERTAINLY TRUE, BUT THEY HAVE TO TURN OUT TO VOTE. THE HISPANIC VOTE GREW OR THE HISPANIC SHARE OF THE POPULATION GREW BY SEVERAL PERCENTAGE POINTS, BUT THEY ONLY GREW BY ONE POINT IN TERMS OF THEIR TURNOUT RATE, WHICH IS FAR BELOW THEIR OVERALL GROWTH RATE, AND WHITE VOTERS ARE TURNING OUT AT A PRETTY HIGH RATE, ALREADY MUCH HIGHER THAN HISPANICS AND HIRE THIS ELECTION FOR DONALD TRUMP. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE CONTENDING WITH. DEMOCRATS CERTAINLY HAVE POTENTIAL IF THESE GROUPS OF VOTERS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM, BUT AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO TURNOUT. IT IS THE BIGGEST CLICHE IN POLITICS, BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. MATT: IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR HILLARY CLINTON'S SPEECH TODAY. I THOUGHT VERY GRACIOUS, AND PRESIDENT OBAMA TALKING IN A WAY THAT AIMS TO BRING THE COUNTRY BACK TOGETHER, TO HEAL US AFTER THIS DIVISIVE ELECTION. A LOT OF PEOPLE ON TWITTER TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A PARDON FOR HILLARY CLINTON BY BARACK OBAMA AT THE END OF HIS TERM. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE CHARGED WITH ANYTHING -- OF COURSE, SHE HAS NOT BEEN. SHE IS NOT UNDER INDICTMENT. DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN? A KIND OF GERALD FORD/RICHARD NIXON KIND OF PARDON? >> THE WHITE HOUSE DID NOT GIVE AN ANSWER, BUT JOSH EARNEST DID EXPRESS HOW THE NEXT PRESIDENT WILL LOOK FORWARD, NOT LOOK BACKWARD, AND NOT SEEK POLITICAL REVENGE, THAT SORT OF THING. MATT: WHAT IF THE NEXT PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT SEEKING POLITICAL REVENGE IN EVERY ONE OF THE DEBATES? SCARLET: OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE REST OF HIS PARTY? >> LET'S JUST SAY, IF IT IS ON THEIR MIND, THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT PUBLICLY. JOE: YOU MENTIONED DEMOCRATS NOW FACE THIS RECKONING. HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE LAST NIGHT. I ALSO REMEMBER PEOPLE SAYING DEMOCRATS' SOCIAL LIBERALISM HAD NO CURRENCY IN MIDDLE AMERICA AND I REMEMBER THEM SAYING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FACED A HUGE RECKONING AFTER 2012 AND THE PARTY HAD NO CURRENCY OUTSIDE OF WHITE AMERICANS, WHICH DID NOT SEEM TO MATTER THIS ELECTION. ARE WE TO QUICK TO DECLARE THE DEATH AND PERMANENT WILDERNESS OF THESE PARTIES? >> WE SHOULD NOT BE WRITING ANY PARTY A PERMANENT OBITUARY AND SUGGESTING ANY OF THEM WILL GO THE WAY OF THE WHIGS. THE TRUTH IS, THE PARTIES DID ADAPT IN THESE MOMENTS. I THINK AFTER THE 2004 ELECTION, THE DEMOCRATS DID ADAPT BY APPEALING TO THIS NEW SECTION OF THE ELECTORATE, WHICH APPARENTLY CAME WITH ITS OWN DOWNSIDES. REPUBLICANS IN THE OBAMA YEARS HAVE MASTERED OBSTRUCTION AND USED IT TO MOBILIZE THEIR OWN BASE AND THAT'S WHY THEY WON BIG IN 2010 AND 2015. I THINK THE PARTIES ARE RESILIENT IN A TWO-PARTY SYSTEM TO ADAPT, BUT THE PROCESS OF

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