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  • 00:00WE ARE JUST OUTSIDE SYRACUSE. A LITTLE WHILE AGO, WE INTERVIEWED SENATOR TED CRUZ. I WILL SHOW YOU THAT CONVERSATION A LITTLE LATER IN THE PROGRAM, BUT FIRST, BERNIE SANDERS' HAIL MARY. HE TOOK A REDEYE FLIGHT LAST NIGHT AFTER DEBATING HILLARY CLINTON AND WENT TO ROME, ITALY, WHERE HE DELIVERED A 15-MINUTE SPEECH ON A "MORAL ECONOMY." SANDERS ALSO IMITATED A SPEECH BY POPE FRANCIS, BUT AFTER MAKING THE ONE-WAY TREK, SANDERS WILL LEAVE VATICAN CITY TOMORROW WITHOUT ANY EXPECTATION HE WILL MEET WITH THE POPE. YOU AND I HAVE BOTH BEEN CONFUSED ABOUT WHY IT MADE SENSE FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO LEAVE NEW YORK AND GO TO ROME WITH THE PRIMARY APPROACHING. NOW THAT THE TRIP IS BASICALLY IN THE CAN, WAS IT WORTH IT? JOHN: AFTER TODAY, HAVING VIEWED ALL OF HIS ACTIVITIES AND SEEN THE COVERAGE, IT STILL DOES NOT EXTENDS. HE GOT SOME DECENT PLAY. HE WAS ON CABLE DURING THE DAY. -- IT STILL DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. HE WAS ABLE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT PLACE AND MAKE THE ARGUMENT TO WORLD LEADERS RATHER THAN HERE ON THE STUMP, BUT GIVEN WHERE HE STANDS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR HIM TO FIND A PLACE CALLED ROME, NEW YORK. MARK: THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD AT THE STAGECRAFT OF POLITICS, IN PART BECAUSE THE CANDIDATE RESISTS IT, BUT I THINK WHAT THEY SAID WAS TRUE -- BERNIE SANDERS WANTED TO GO. HE THOUGHT IT WAS AN HONOR TO BE INCLUDED. HE JUSTIFIES IT BY MENTIONING HILLARY CLINTON GOES TO CALIFORNIA TO FUND RAISE FOR 40 HOURS. HE LEFT. HE GOT SOME COVERAGE, BUT, MAN, IT MAKES NO MORE SENSE TO ME THAN IT DID BEFORE. I PREDICTED IT WOULD BE CANCELED . IT MIGHT AS WELL HAVE BEEN. JOHN: I KNEW YOU WOULD ASK THIS QUESTION -- WHY DO I NOT CRITICIZE HILLARY CLINTON FOR GOING TO CALIFORNIA FOR A FUNDRAISER. I DO NOT INK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG -- I DO NOT THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT, BUT IT'S THE POLITICAL CONTEXT. IN HER CASE, SHE CAN AFFORD TO LEAVE A STATE WHERE SHE IS AHEAD BY DOUBLE DIGITS, AND SHE IS AHEAD. MARK: IF HE DOES NOT WIN, HE LOSES. JOHN: HE HAS TO CATCH UP. THIS IS NOT A PLACE HE CAN AFFORD TO LOSE AND LOSE POTENTIALLY BADLY. MARK: THE GUY HAS INCREDIBLE STAMINA, BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE HE IS GOING TO COME BACK FRESH AS A DAISY. JOHN: HE ALSO TOOK HIS FAMILY
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