Barry Ritholtz's Masters in Business: The Robert Shiller Interview

Barry Ritholtz is a Bloomberg View columnist. He founded Ritholtz Wealth Management and was chief executive and director of equity research at FusionIQ, a quantitative research firm. He blogs at the Big Picture and is the author of “Bailout Nation: How Greed and Easy Money Corrupted Wall Street and Shook the World Economy.”
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In the latest “Masters in Business” podcast, I speak with Robert Shiller, Stirling Professor of Economics at Yale University and winner of the 2013 Nobel Prize in economics.

Shiller makes a key point about finance:  “We really do not know the future. Since we don’t, we are talking finance and insurance. They are really about an uncertain future, sharing your risks, hedging your risks. People forget that’s a core element. It is not about beating the market necessarily; it's about managing risks in such a way that we can be a productive society and we can achieve our goals.”

He also tells a number of fascinating anecdotes -- about how he met Wharton professor Jeremy Siegel while they were both undergraduates at MIT, how the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price indexes came about, and how the phrase “irrational exuberance” made it into a well-known 1996 speech by former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan.

You can download the podcast here, stream it on Soundcloud or download it on iTunes. (All of the earlier podcasts are now on Apple iTunes).

Next week, we speak with Lakshman Achuthan, co-founder and chief operations officer of the Economic Cycle Research Institute.

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