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Dec. 18 (Bloomberg) – Ronin Analytics CEO Bob Stasio and CCIA Senior Director Daniel O’Connor discuss what the panel recommendations mean for the future of government surveillance with Emily Chang on Bloomberg Television’s “Bloomberg West.” (Source: Bloomberg)

Your resume is quite extensive.

You help stop these high targets.

Do these recommendations made by the panel put us at risk in any way?

Thanks for having me.

It slows down the process of our ability to gather intelligence and analyze, if it does anything.

For example, i like to use the 9/11 example.

Right before the 9/11 attacks it became evident that one of the hijackers was communicating with elements in yemen.

Following that, we were not able to actually collect that to analyze because it was emanating from within the united states.

After that, the 9/11 report, a recommendation was made to change some of our collection ability in order to catch intelligence items of that value.

If we swing the pendulum the other way too much into the privacy realm, i think it might slow down our ability to find things like that.

Click 50s recommendations are implemented as is written, they would be dangerous?

Not all of them would necessarily be dangerous.

As i was saying with my pendulum analogy, following 9/11, we swung the pendulum from privacy to security.

There is always that balance between privacy and security and we are trying in this recommendation to point to the needle to the preferred area where it would be the sweet spot.

What this does is it goes more towards the privacy area and may sacrifice some speed in our ability to process information.

Daniel, you're part of a lobbying group advocating.

The privacy groups want more privacy and protections.

How is it being perceived in the technology community so far today?

Thanks for having me on.

It's a great step forward and it's a 300 page document.

My colleagues and a different tech companies are going through this as we speak but it's important to start this in balancing security and privacy.

As all your viewers know, international markets represent some of my member companies biggest targets right now.

It's important for internet users across the globe to get this right.

It could be a disaster blow to our economic security and that's another thing we have to consider.

Is not just national security but the health of the u.s. economy going forward.

You represent facebook.

Mark zuckerberg has said the nsa blew it.

What do you think he thinks about these recommendations?

Are they strong enough in the direction he thinks they should go in?

I will not speak for mr.

Zuckerberg, but there are important things on the table.

It makes it harder to collect and analyze metadata and it requires a court decision from the other day that said it's a violation of the fourth amendment.

Another thing i like about this, and needs to go further but it's good to start this conversation.

It discusses international users.

Facebook and google have half of their revenue coming from overseas.

If their users do not feel like google and facebook can be trusted, then it will be a huge blow to their business and bottom line.

The other day, cisco released in its quarterly statement that they have had overseas sales affected him as a new study that shows the damage to the u.s. cloud computing and hosting economy could be over $30 billion over the next five years.

It's important to get this right.

In terms of getting it right, my question for bob, are we going to swing the pendulum towards privacy until something bad happens again and it will go back in the other direction?

At the possibility.

I believe nsa and the intelligence community has a lot of oversight.

There is an executive and legislative oversight over the intelligence community and certainly the nsa.

You have to realize the people behind the scenes are constantly trying to move this process and balance as time goes on.

When a large global event occurs like this, the snowed in documents, this is a catalyst in order to swing the pendulum back towards privacy just as 9/11 was a catalyst to swing the pendulum back toward security.

That's how the process works but it's happening in smaller iterations all the time but we just don't hear about it in the public every day.

You wonder how we find a balance.

You worked inside the nsa at the cyber unit four years.

What you think the nsa is doing wrong?

I was not really on a decision-making authority to determine where we were able to stop our privacy limits but i really think it's one of the best methods we have for handling this very difficult problem.

There's really no better way than we've come up with.

It's a challenge to try to protect the united states, try to protect u.s. persons because the problems are not going away.

There are threats out there and it happens every day.

In my opinion, this was a very balanced in a calculated measure with a lot of oversight.

How cooperative do you think technology companies like facebook and google should be?

How cooperative are they willing to be with the government?

They are willing to become operative but oversight and checks are in place and they need some level of transparency not per se to talk about who is being targeted but to talk about abstract numbers and what kind of surveillance also, we would like the government to be more transparent about different legal authorities under which they are operating.

Companies are very supportive but at the same time they care about their international users and the reputation overseas.

This is something they take very seriously.

It's false to say there's a trade-off between privacy and security.

We can have robust oversight and checks at the same time and still respect international and domestic internet users.

Bob and daniel from the

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