{"id":119498,"date":"2025-02-27T06:30:35","date_gmt":"2025-02-27T11:30:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/professional\/insights\/markets\/cre-sentiment-and-risks-with-crefcs-pendergast-macro-matters-2\/"},"modified":"2025-06-18T08:54:43","modified_gmt":"2025-06-18T12:54:43","slug":"cre-sentiment-and-risks-with-crefcs-pendergast-macro-matters-2","status":"publish","type":[3765],"link":"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/professional\/insights\/markets\/cre-sentiment-and-risks-with-crefcs-pendergast-macro-matters-2\/","title":{"rendered":"CRE Sentiment and Risks with CREFC\u2019s Pendergast: Macro Matters"},"content":{"rendered":"<div  class=\"bbg-row-container\">\n    <section class=\"bbg-row bg--white  text--black row-padding--bottom-none bbg-row--full-bg-bleed\" data-anchor='row-6a0c4589b141f'>\n        \n        \n        <div\n            class=\"bbg-row--content\"\n                    >\n            \n            <div\n    class=\"bbg-column\"\n    style=\"\"\n    >\n    <div\n\tclass=\"bb-wysiwyg\"\n\t\t>\n\t<p class=\"small\"><strong>PODCAST<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<\/div>\n    <h1 class=\"bbg-metadata bbg-metadata--title\">CRE Sentiment and Risks with CREFC\u2019s Pendergast: Macro Matters<\/h1>\n<div\n    class=\"bbg-spacer bbg-spacer--lg\"\n    >\n<\/div>    <ul class=\"bbg-categories_list\">\n                    <li>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/professional\/insights\/category\/markets\/\" rel=\"category tag\">\n                    Markets\n                <\/a>\n            <\/li>\n            <\/ul>\n<div\n    class=\"bbg-spacer bbg-spacer--lg\"\n    >\n<\/div>    <p class=\"bbg-metadata bbg-metadata--date\">February 27, 2025<\/p>\n<div\n\tclass=\"bb-wysiwyg\"\n\t\t>\n\t<p class=\"small\"><strong>Bloomberg Intelligence Podcast<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n                    <\/div>\n    <\/section>\n<\/div>\n\n<div  class=\"bbg-row-container\">\n    <section class=\"bbg-row  text--black row-padding--top-none row-padding--bottom-none bbg-row--full-bg-bleed\" data-anchor='row-6a0c4589b78ef'>\n        \n        \n        <div\n            class=\"bbg-row--content\"\n                    >\n            \n            <p><div\n    class=\"bbg-column bbg-column--width-2 bbg-column--valign-middle bbg-column--m-width-4 bbg-column--s-width-2\"\n    style=\"\"\n    >\n    <div id=\"\" class=\"wpb_content_element bbg-single-image align-left\">\n    <figure class=\"bbg-single-image__figure\" style=\"max-width:100%\">\n                <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/image\/v1\/resize?width=auto&amp;type=webp&amp;url=https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/professional\/sites\/41\/1172389_BBGT_BI_FICCFocusPodcast_DigAsset_FNL-1.png\" class=\"bbg-single-image__image attachment-full\" alt=\"\" title=\"1172389_BBGT_BI_FICCFocusPodcast_DigAsset_FNL-1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/image\/v1\/resize?width=auto&amp;type=webp&amp;url=https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/professional\/sites\/41\/1172389_BBGT_BI_FICCFocusPodcast_DigAsset_FNL-1.png 800w, https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/image\/v1\/resize?width=auto&amp;type=webp&amp;url=https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/professional\/sites\/41\/1172389_BBGT_BI_FICCFocusPodcast_DigAsset_FNL-1.png 552w, https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/image\/v1\/resize?width=auto&amp;type=webp&amp;url=https:\/\/assets.bbhub.io\/professional\/sites\/41\/1172389_BBGT_BI_FICCFocusPodcast_DigAsset_FNL-1.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\n        \n            <\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<div\n\tclass=\"bb-wysiwyg\"\n\t\t>\n\t<p style=\"font-size: 18px; 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