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00:00GIVE US A SENSE HERE. YOU WERE EARLIER THIS WEEK PREDICTING WE WOULD HAVE HORRIBLE TRADE NUMBERS, THAT WE WOULD SEE PPI GOING DEEPER INTO CONTRACTION. YOU ' RE SORT OF DOOM AND GLOOM THEORIES HAVE BEEN, SORT OF, I SUPPOSE, BORNE OUT HERE. > > LOOK, MOST OF THE NUMBERS ARE COMING OUT OF CHINA AT THE MOMENT BACKWARD LOOKING. THE STORY HAS IN A WAY BEEN TURNING A LOT OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF THE HOPE OF THE SHIFT IN CHINA DERIVATIVE COMING ABOUT. THERE IS A LOT WHICH REMAINS TO BE SEEN, WHICH IS WHY I SAY IN OUR LATEST OUTCOME REPORT, IT IS A BUMPY TERM. I THINK THERE IS EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE CHINA WILL HAVE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD DID A MULTISTAGE OPENING, BUT IT IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE FINANCIAL MARKETS LOOK THROUGH THOSE VARIOUS PHASES AND KIND OF TRY TO PRICE IN MORE OF THE IN-STATE. THE MORE VC FROM CHINA IN TERMS OF MEASURES TO RELAX RESTRICTIONS TO OPEN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, I THINK THE MORE MARKETS WILL BE CONVINCED ABOUT THAT IN-STATE COMING UP. I THINK A LOT OF NUMBERS IN CHINA NEED TO BE VERY CAREFULLY DECIPHERED RIGHT NOW. THERE ' S NO DOUBT EQUITY WILL END THE YEAR MORE BROAD THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED, BUT IT ' S ALSO EASY TO SEE THAT THERE WILL BE A TURN. DAVID: LAYOUT FOR US, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHAT SPECIFIC NUMBERS WOULD YOU BE PLACING A LOT MORE WEIGHT ON RIGHT NOW TO GET A SENSE, REALLY, OF NOT JUST THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, BECAUSE THAT ' S CLEAR, BUT HOW QUICKLY WE ARE GETTING THERE. > > THAT ' S A GOOD POINT. THE SEQUENCING OF THIS OPENING IS WHAT TO WATCH FOR IN CHINA. OUR VIEW IS PROBABLY WHAT WILL COME UP FIRST WILL BE MORE IN CONSUMPTION, PROBABLY MORE IN GOODS AND SERVICES. IF THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER COUNTRIES IS TO BE BORN, THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION IN MOBILITY HAS CASES GO UP, AS THESE RESTRICTIONS GET RELAXED, SO PROBABLY IT IS MORE GOODS DEMAND RATHER THAN SERVICES DEMAND, WHICH I SUSPECT SHOULD START TO GET REFLECTED IN A LOT OF THE DOMESTIC REVEAL NUMBERS IN TERMS OF IMPORT NUMBERS, ETC., COMING THROUGH. THEN IT IS THE PROPERTY CYCLE AND RELATED INDUSTRY DEMAND, WHICH NUMBERS WE SHOULD START TO SEE MORE IN TERMS OF FINANCING AND INVESTMENT NUMBERS COMING THROUGH. AND AT SOME POINT WHEN THE BORDERS REALLY REOPEN IN A BIG WAY, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY START TO SEE SPENDING AND OUTBOUND TRAVEL STARTING TO PICK UP. WE WILL NEED TO SEE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO GAUGE, ESPECIALLY OVER THE NEW YEAR HOLIDAYS, THE STRENGTH OF THE RECOVERY COMING ABOUT, THE REBOUND COMING ABOUT AS THE REOPENING PROGRESSES.

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