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00:00We are in the city of London. What is the main purpose of this trip to London. Sarah Morgan Well. Well very simply to come see French people living in London. You know there 300000 French people here from all social classes. All kinds of jobs. There are some that have been here for years. Some that have been here from very recently. And it's almost like the third or fourth largest town in France with 300 400 thousand people. So it's always interesting to meet this French people. And I'd like to know why they left France. Why they don't want to go back to France. I have some idea here. I think the development of France particularly the development of its population and of its people really does count a lot with regard to their departure. They're not only fiscal or economic reasons that are always mentioned. So I wanted to see with these people what they believed. And also to see how some of them could possibly think of returning because I feel that it's sad that all these competitions these talents these energies are not at the service of France even if there is a great tradition of French people going to England. I mean you can come back to Voltaire or Chateau PR and so on. With the Caroline Connan perhaps. Are you also here to look for financial support to finance your future campaign. Well let's say everywhere in France of course one could do the same thing. You ask people to potentially finance an electoral campaign. So it's not more likely to be the case in London than elsewhere. I'm talking to the polemicist eggs in the candidate. You're talking to the writer. It makes him or relations between France and Britain have very recently deteriorated. You had the submarine crisis. You had the fishermen's crisis. Do you think like Marine Le Pen that the French need to raise their voice further in these post Brexit bickering. These reports can read for the more they look I think. Of course that we have to defend the interests of the French fishermen. And they've been there for tens of years sometimes in centuries. Some of us have got licenses for centuries. And of course it's true that it's quite shocking to see the British government reject them. The French government has badly negotiated and lost this battle because apparently we're going to reduce the ships. They'll just be a few dozens when there were hundreds. And so therefore it is a failure for the government and failure that will cost a great deal as far as our fishermen are concerned. So one should have been firmer and better defend the interests of the French people. But I believe that the French government and the Macau government are really paying for their behavior since Brexit. Really. The French government just as a Brussels commission wants to make the UK pay for Brexit. The decision of Brexit simply to give them as an example to the other countries in Europe are not tempted to rebel against the dictates of the commission or European judges. And I think that's an error. I think it's a philosophical error because the British people has decided we've got to respect what they've decided upon. And it's also a tactical error because I believed as British people should be respected for their choice. And we have to say you've chosen Brexit but of course our relations will take place within that framework. We can have friendly relations and we can have economic relations. I'd like to remind you that France after all has an excess of commercial balance and it's the only country where there's an excess of commercial budget. Now two serious armies. We just have the two serious armies in Europe. So we could carry on collaborating and have collaborative agreements. And thirdly I would say that the Alba era committed by Emmanuel Annmarie Horden is a question of understanding he believes. But as all those pro European that there's no salvation outside the European Union he thought that UK would be isolated once it had left the European Union. That's wrong because there are alliances. There are affinities that are much stronger than that of the European Union. Of course the Anglo-Saxon world we can see that there is a reconstitution of an Anglo Saxon bloc which is no longer the Commonwealth but it's almost like a sister that is no longer England. There's actually a direct interest to states. And you can see France paid a great deal because of the Australian Frigates affair. So I think that's something we have to take into consideration. We have to change our policy and we mustn't try to sort of teach lessons to the England. They've decided to leave the EU. They were right to do so. We have to respect that choice. But I don't I mean. In Vonnie Quinn this was war you are also often nicknamed the French Trump. Are you in favor just like in the era of Donald Trump of reintroducing some tariffs on certain countries such as Nasir. And if so on what kind of products did this department confide in a company. Someone needs to drop us. I'm not upset that I am compared to Donald Trump but it always makes me laugh because you should actually compare me to Boris Johnson because just like me he was a journalist beforehand and he wrote history books just as I have done so. I have far more affinity intellectual affinity with Boris Johnson than with Donald Trump. However the two have succeeded in something that I encourage and I've been asking for for a long time in France. On the political level is the alliance between the popular classes and the bourgeoisie. Page shall take a bush I see that wants to defend its country. That doesn't forget its responsibilities. He's every people. I'd like to remind you that for example that Donald Trump's victory just as Brexit. First of all were founded upon the question of immigration. And that's what I put forward in this three electoral campaign as far as your question is concerned. We don't have the same situation as Donald Trump. The states are sovereign commercially. We have delegated Francis delegated just as orderly European Union countries that commercial competences and negotiations are to Brussels for better or worse. And we were supposed to be better defended because there would be four more of us more powerful with a larger market. But in reality it's far more complicated than that. And we are paying we are often sacrificing our products particularly our agriculture. With regard to the interest of the very powerful German car industry. So of course we can't just play around with regard to customs duties as Donald Trump did. But there are two things that we could actually do. We could finally finish the carbon taxes at the borders of the European Union that have been promised for such a long time. In other words to tax are all products that don't have the ecological constraints of the European Union. And so that would allow us to protect our farmers our industry and it would avoid that our farmers might be in competition with Chilean chickens or New Zealand sheep. All heaven knows what else. And secondly we could because after all the voice of France allows this because in fact break up all kinds of agreements. For example I'm thinking of the treaty with Mercosur too with North America. I'm thinking about the recent treaty that's been signed up with Chile with New Zealand and China. China that's something else. We don't have a free exchange treaty with China. China in fact you're right. The European Union has just signed a treaty once again under the pressure of the Germans with the Chinese. However for the moment that's still a draft. And we have to start a bit more closely. But if and it's likely that our interests are not respected then I would suggest in the same way that we should block the ratification of this particular free exchange treaty. Do blocking ratification do so quickly. Do you trade war with China would unnecessarily scare you. Especially by the Ferengi. We're not talking about a trade war or just for having a trade war. We have interests. We have our major groups for example our luxury groups that sell a great deal to China. So therefore I'm well aware of that. But very simply the entry of China into the OMC for a while has ravaged the French industry. The European industry particularly the French industry. So we really must be able to supervise that. We mustn't be naive. After all the Chinese themselves can't bear that we invested with them without having somebody whose companies is us. In other words the Chinese say we allow Chinese investments to have access. I think it's more a question of in fact Chinese investment rather than pure trade. Apart from what I said as far as the carbon tax is concerned there should be a carbon tax on all the Chinese products and others that don't respect our environmental standards. But we must also controls far better Chinese investments and also foreign investments from a general point of view because many of our companies small companies or large companies are bought out by foreigners by by the bodies accounting. Do you agree with Christine Lagarde the president of the ECB that the current inflation. Pressures that we are seeing are just temporary. Well she doesn't know about it. Anything about it. She just says that in order to reassure everybody or to reassure the markets particularly to justify European central banks just not to increase their interest rates and not to interrupt its quantitative easing policy there was an increase in inflation in Germany of 4 percent which for the Germans is absolutely apocalyptic. We know the Germans are obsessed by major waves of inflation of the 20s of course. We're not talking about going with wheelbarrows to buy bread but as soon as there's a rate of inflation goes beyond the 2 percent then they're nervous. But we have another problem which is not inflation. It's debt and are DAX which in fact thanks to the generosity of her father Christmas. Mr. Michael Barr. We have gone up to a hundred and nineteen or one hundred and sixteen of the GDP and that's a lot. And even if today doesn't cost us a great deal because after all we just re import versus the interest and the interest is at zero where. Fine. But if the European Central Bank under the pressure of the Germans felt obligated to increase the rates and we wouldn't be laughing so much the French the Italians and the Greeks are even worse actually. I believe that potentially there is first of all a source of concerns as far as the French budget is concerned because after all if the debt increases it will cost us a great deal of money for the cost of the debt. And then also computations within the committee of the governors of the European Central Bank which there'll be a great deal of discord between countries of the north and countries in the south. One thing to fueling this inflation is of course the energy prices. Russia is one of Europe's biggest supplier of gas and gas prices obviously surging. What needs to happen there with Russia said well look it's not Russia that is solely responsible for the increase of gas prices. That's the whole context. There's the epidemic. There's the upsurge after the economic downturn during lockdown. So we need more energy. So we buy petrol. You buy cars. So the project producing countries don't want to reduce their prices of course. So they want to take advantage of it. And so therefore they increase their prices. But that was totally invisible. What is far more serious is that we are also paying for Germany's decisions and the European Commission's decision to play against the nuclear and also the French government that has actually neglected for years nuclear energy and hadn't built any kind of nuclear power stations and to close the power station in fact in time. And now the Germans the Germans have closed that power station. Everybody congratulated Mrs Merkel but we've had very little wind. So what's happened. Windfarms don't work. So what does Mrs Merkel do. Well she buys electricity from France and she buys gas and also coal. And so therefore that increases the prices. And it's a catastrophe as far as the CO2 figures. So that's appalling. We pay cash and Germany renounce nuclear. Brussels wants absolutely to marginalize on this nuclear energy. And Emmanuelle Merkel and the French government have decided to give in to this ideology this green ideology and this cult of windfarms. When we had a competitive advantage which was nuclear. These are all yen or you will not be competitive nuclear with President Emanuel. Merkel announced just last week that he now wants to relaunch new nuclear reactors. So. So he's right. Well did you not realize that the presidential campaign is in six months or six months. Ms. Many people have said that they wanted to relaunch a nuclear power stations and we had lost it because there was this disdain for nuclear power for four and a half years. He had time to do it. He didn't do so. Now he thinks gets you to do so. It's fine and dandy but frankly really that's been converted to last minute as you just mentioned. The presidential elections is in five months from now. Matt Miller has actually accused you of dividing the national camp. Would you unite behind her if she's high in the polls by March and vice versa. You know there's nothing divisive. Everyone is allowed to present themselves. We're not talking about a parliamentary regime like in England where any of the political parties have campaigns. It's a French situation election of the president of the republic with universal suffrage. It's not the parties that are going to decide upon the election. The presidential campaign which was designed by Cheney had a goal is in fact as a meeting between a man and a people. It's not the meeting of a political party with its financing. That's something else. It's another regime. Marine Le Pen of course isn't a partisan. Logic and political party policy is fine for her. But that's not my problem. You know there's no division but it's the people that will choose. Of course the people will choose. We'll see. You will be at the second round and then after that we'll see here. It's as simple as that. It's called democracy and it's called the election of the president of the republic. With universal suffrage.

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