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00:00ANNA: THE LATEST POLLING SUGGESTS YOU ARE FAR FROM A MAJORITY. IS THE LABOUR PARTY READY TO ACCEPT THAT YOU WON ' T WIN A MAJORITY THIS TIME AROUND? JOHN: NOT AT ALL. IN 2017, THE POLLING WAS TELLING US WE WERE GOING TO BE WIPED OUT AND WE ALMOST WON. THE POLLING SEEMS TO REFLECT EXACTLY THE SAME AS IN 2017, UNDERESTIMATING THE TREND TOWARDS LABOUR. THE TREND HAS BEEN TOWARDS LABOUR THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN. YOUGOV USUALLY MARKS LABOUR SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN. NOW THEY ARE SAYING WE ARE IN THE MARGINS OF ERROR OF ALMOST A HUNG PARLIAMENT. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF PERFORMING A SMALL LABOUR MAJORITY. IT W ILL ALL DEPEND ON TURNOUT, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET OUR VOTE OUT. I THINK WE CAN. THERE HAS BEEN A LARGE SURGE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, YOUNG PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR. ALSO A SURGE AMONGST OLDER WOMEN FOR WHOM LABOUR IS COMPENSATING FOR FOR WHAT THE CONSERVATIVES DID TO THEM. CONSTITUENCY BY CONSTITUENCY, I THINK YOU WILL SEE SURPRISING RESULTS. ANNA: YOU ARE STILL HOPING FOR A MAJORITY. IF YOU ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO FORM A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT, IF YOU HAVE A MINORITY OF THE VOTES BUT GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT TOGETHER SOME KIND OF COOPERATION WITH OTHER PARTIES, WHAT IS THE PRICE OF THEIR COOPERATION -- WHAT IF THE PRICE OF THEIR COOPERATION IS TO REMOVE JEREMY CORBYN? IS THAT A PRICE YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY? JOHN: IF WE DO NOT GET AN OVERALL MAJORITY, WE WILL BE A MINORITY GOVERNMENT. OUR MANIFESTO COMMITMENTS ARE ALL POPULAR POLICIES. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST US INTRODUCING A REAL LIVING WAGE OR COMPENSATING THE WOMEN ARE SAVING OUR NHS SERVICE OR FUNDING SCHOOLS. IF THEY DID, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE ELECTION BUT I CAN ' T SEE THAT HAPPENING. THERE WILL BE NO DEALS, NO NEGOTIATIONS. JEREMY CORBYN IS THE LEADER OF OUR PARTY. WE WILL GO INTO GOVERNMENT WITH HIM LEADING. MATT: WHY? IT SEEMS FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT JEREMY CORBYN IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS FOR THE LABOUR PARTY AND IF YOU WANT TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTRY AND TAKE THESE POLICIES AND MAKE THEM INTO LAW, WHY WOULD YOU CONTINUE WITH A LEADER THAT IS SO WIDELY DISLIKED? JOHN: IT IS INTERESTING. YOU SAY FROM THE OUTSIDE. ACTUALLY, JEREMY CORBYN HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR STRONGEST MOTIVATING FORCES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DETAIL OF SOME OF THIS POLL, CONSISTENTLY, ON THE ISSUE OF TRUSTWORTHINESS AND ON THE ISSUE OF RELATING TO THE PEOPLE, THEIR DAY TO DAY ISSUES, THEY CONFRONT, HE LEADS AGAINST BORIS JOHNSON. THIS ISSUE OF TRUST HAS BECOME CENTRAL TO THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE SEEN HOW BASICALLY PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST BORIS JOHNSON BECAUSE I AM AFRAID HE IS -- HE HAS BEEN SACKED FROM HIS JOBS TWICE BECAUSE HE LIED AND HE IS JUST NOT TRUSTED. HIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN HAS BROUGHT US INTO THE GUTTER OF POLITICS WITH FAKE NEWS, FAKE WEBSITES, SMEARS AND LIES THAT HAVE GONE ON. PEOPLE ARE REACTING AGAINST THAT. THEY JUST WANT A PRIME MINISTER THEY CAN TRUST AND THAT IS JEREMY ' S STRENGTH. MATT: THOSE KINDS OF ACCUSATIONS ARE WIDESPREAD FOR THE RIGHT AND THE CONSERVATIVES IN COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD. IT IS UNUSUAL TO HEAR AN ACCUSATION OF RACISM AND ANTI-SUMMIT HAS HIM FOR A LEFT OR -- ANTI-SEMITISM FOR A LEFT OR LABOUR PARTY AND YET, WE HEAR THAT ABOUT YOUR PARTY. HOW DO YOU DEFEND THAT? JOHN: THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HAS JUST HAD TO SUSPEND THREE CANDIDATES FOR RACISM, ANTI-SEMITISM, AND ISLAMOPHOBIA. IT IS INHERENT WITHIN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LABOUR PARTY AND CONSERVATIVE PARTY IS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH ANTI-SEMITISM WITHIN OUR PARTY. LESS THAN 1% OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ACCUSED. ONE ANTI-SEMITE, ONE RACIST IN OUR PARTY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE INTRODUCED NEW PROCEDURES. WE HAVE KICKED PEOPLE OUT. WE HAVE LAUNCHED AN EDUCATION COURSE TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ANTI-SEMITISM IS. THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY AND YET, LOOK AT BORIS JOHNSON ' S OWN WRITING AND WORDS. THEY ARE RACIST. THE WAY HE HAS INSULTED MUSLIM PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO BLACK PEOPLE, COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN IS THAT HE HAS BEEN EXPOSED FOR THE RACIST STATEMENTS, NOT JUST RECENT STATEMENTS BUT OVER DECADES IN HIS WRITING. WE WANT TO ENSURE, JUST AS WE ARE CLEANING UP THE LABOUR PARTY, WE WANT TO CLEAN UP POLITICS IN THIS COUNTRY. ANNA: WE KNOW THAT SOME MEMBERS OF YOUR PARTY HAVE FELT SO STRONGLY ABOUT ANTI-SEMITISM IN THE LABOUR PARTY THAT THEY HAVE HAD TO DEFECT TO OTHER PARTIES. IN RECENT YOUGOV POLLING, ONLY 19% OF VOTERS SAID THEY THINK JEREMY CORBYN OR JOHNSON KEEP THEIR PROMISES. THERE SEEMS TO BE A BROADER LEVEL OF DISTRUST IN U.K. POLITICS RATHER THAN JUST DIRECTED AT THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY. JOHN: JUST LOOK AT THE DEBATES. JUST LOOK AT THE DEBATES. ANNA: I WANT TO RETURN TO THE LABOUR PARTY. WE HAVE WATCHED THE DEBATES, YES. YOU SAID YOU WILL KEEP JEREMY CORBYN. IF THERE IS A COMPETITION TO LEAD THE PARTY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A GO AT LEADING IT? JOHN: JUST LOOK AT THE POLLING AFTER THE DEBATES. JEREMY CORBYN OF LEADS BY ALMOST 70-20 ON SOME OCCASIONS ON THE ISSUE OF TRUSTWORTHINESS AGAINST BORIS JOHNSON. WHEN PEOPLE SEE WE ARE UNBIASED COVERAGE AND THE REAL JEREMY CORBYN, THEY TRUST HIM. WHEN THEY SEE THE REAL BORIS JOHNSON, THEY RECOIL AGAINST HIM. THAT HAS BEEN THE MESSAGE OF HIS CAMPAIGN THROUGHOUT. IN TERMS OF LABOUR PARTY LEADERSHIP, JEREMY CORBYN WILL TAKE US INTO GOVERNMENT. I TELL YOU WITH OUR RADICAL MANIFESTO, IT WILL BE A LABOUR GOVERNMENT THAT TRANSFORM SOCIETY, SAVES OUR NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE AND PRIVATIZATION , INVEST IN OUR EDUCATION, RAISES THE LIVING WAGE AND MAKES SURE THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE WOMEN WHO SUFFERED SUCH AN INJUSTICE WILL BE PROPERLY COMPENSATED. .

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