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00:00[LAUGHTER] RIGHT. EVERY WEEK THERE SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING NEW HERE. HOW MUCH DOES THIS HURT THE PRESIDENT AND HELP THE DEMOCRATS? STEVE: I THINK SOME OF IT -- LANHEE: I THINK SOME OF IT IS THE QUESTION OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, NEEDING TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, NOT KNOWING MORE AROUND THAT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO A SOW ' S WHO IT HURTS MORE. FROM THE PRESIDENT ' S PERSPECTIVE, HE COULD SAY A DAY WHEN HE IS TALKING ABOUT A SCANDAL INVOLVING JOE BIDEN IS A GOOD DAY FOR HIM. YOU MIGHT THINK HE ACTUALLY PRESSED THIS, HE ACTUALLY WANTED THIS TO BE PART OF THE DIALOGUE INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS STORY AND PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED WITH JOE BIDEN AND UKRAINE ANYWAY? SOME OF THIS IS REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY. IT IS TOUGH TO SAY IF IT WILL HURT HIM OR BITE AND MORE. THE REALITY IS IT IS ANOTHER NORM BREAKING PIECE OF ACTIVITY FROM THE PRESIDENT. SHERY: WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS FAIL TO GAIN TRACTION WITH THE IMPEACHMENT ISSUE? COULD THIS SNOWBALL INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? LANHEE: I THINK THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR STRATEGY AND ATTACK WILL BE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT GOING INTO THE ELECTION YEAR. IS IT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE WAYS THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION HAS BENEFITED ECONOMICALLY AND FINANCIALLY FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP BEING IN OFFICE? IS GOING TO BE THIS LINE OF INQUIRY ALONG UKRAINE AND INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS? OR IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THEY DIG UP FROM PAST LINES OF ATTACK WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL LIKE THE MUELLER REPORT. DEMOCRATS NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A COHERENT AND CONSISTENT THEME DEMOCRATS HAVE DRAWN ON. THAT HAS HURT THEIR ABILITY TO DAMAGE THE PRESIDENT POLITICALLY. PAUL: THERE IS NO GUARANTEE JOE BIDEN IS EVEN GOING TO BE THE CANDIDATE WHO ENDS UP FACING PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 2020. COULD THIS EMBOLDEN SOME OF JOE BIDEN ' S RIVALS WITHIN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY? LANHEE: IT VERY WELL COULD. THE QUESTION THERE IS WHO WOULD BE THE ONE TO LAUNCH THAT FIRST ATTACK? AND WHOEVER IT IS DOES RUN THE DANGER OF BEING ASSAULTED BY HIS OR HER DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES FOR ESSENTIALLY ADVANCING THE PRESIDENT ' S RHETORIC AND ADVANCING THE PRESIDENTS ANGLE AGAINST THE VICE PRESIDENT. THERE IS SOME RISK INVOLVED. BUT CERTAINLY, I THINK DEMOCRATS WILL BEGIN TO ATTACK EACH OTHER MORE, PARTICULARLY AS THE FIELD NARROWS, AND THE QUESTION BECOMES WHO IS GOING TO BE THERE ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET TO THE FIRST CASTING OF BALLOTS IN IOWA IN JANUARY? PAUL: LANHEE CHEN STAYS WITH US.

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Another Norm-Breaking Piece of Activity From Trump, Says Hoover Institution’s Chen

Lanhee Chen, director of domestic policy studies at Hoover Institution, discusses President Trump’s phone call involving the Ukraine leader and how this could impact the 2020 election. He speaks on “Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia.” (Source: Bloomberg)

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