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00:00HER VOICE BECAME IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE PRIMARIES BUT THERE IS AN IMMEDIATE MOMENT IN THIS MOMENT BEFORE THE ELECTION. JILL STEIN, THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR THE GREEN PARTY. JOINING US. STEPHANIE FLANDERS I'M SURE WILL VOICE IN HERE. WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU BACK. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, HOW DO YOU SHIFT IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION AS YOU SEE DONALD TRUMP GAIN ON SECRETARY CLINTON? JILL: I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH HER CHOICES. THEY ARE THE MOST DISLIKED CANDIDATES IN HISTORY. AND WITH EACH PASSING DAY THERE ARE MORE REVELATIONS THAT CONFIRM THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS THE QUEEN OF CORRUPTION AND THAT DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF IS A WALKING SCANDAL. AND I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE MORE HUNGRY THAN EVER FOR POLITICS OF INTEGRITY AND FOR REAL SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD PUT OUR ECONOMY BACK ON TRACK AS A PRODUCTIVE ECONOMY. TOM: HERE IS THE METRIC WE FOLLOW. IT LOOKS LIKE A MEDICAL CHART. RING THAT UP IF YOU WOULD ANTHONY? HERE IS THE TRUMP SURGE. IT IS SHOWN BY THE MEXICAN PESO. AND THIS COMES TO ALL OF THE EMOTION YOU JUST SPOKE OF. THE THREE DEBATES ARE IN THE BLUE CIRCLE. ROSS PEROT HAD A CERTAIN PROPHECY AS A THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE AND THIS TIME WE HAVE TWO THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATES. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE FROM YOURSELF AND FROM GARY JOHNSON IN THE COMING DAYS AS YOU AFFECT THE ELECTION? JILL: MY POINT OF VIEW, WHAT IS IMPORTANT HERE IS TO LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR VOTE REALLY DOES COUNT. I URGE PEOPLE NOT TO THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY ON A FAILED TWO-PARTY SYSTEM BUT TO INVEST YOUR VOTE IN A SYSTEM AND MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE. WE ARE AT THE THRESHOLD OF 5%. WE DID REACH 5% ACCORDING TO A POLITICAL POLL AND IF WE REACH 5%, IT MEANS WE HAVE MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE 2020 ELECTION. TOM: I WILL TAKE YOUR POINT ON 5% BEING CRITICAL. SO MANY AMERICANS, AS WE SAW WITH BERNIE SANDERS AND WITH DONALD TRUMP, FED UP WITH THE SYSTEM. GREAT. WHAT DO YOU DO IN THE BATTLEGROUND STATES? AND ARE YOU GOING TO LOSE A BATTLEGROUND STATE FOR THE SECRETARY? JILL: FROM THE POLLS THAT I'VE SEEN, GOVERNOR JOHNSON AND I TOGETHER NEUTRALIZE EACH OTHER OUT AND WE ESSENTIALLY DO NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLINTON AND TRUMP. WE ARE IN A LOSING BATTLE HERE. IT IS A RACE TO THE BOTTOM BETWEEN THE GREATER AND LESSER EVIL. THE POLITICS HERE DELIVERED EVERYTHING WE ARE AFRAID OF AND POLITICIANS DO NOT HAVE AN ENTITLEMENT TO OUR VOTES. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE CLAMORING AND STILL ARE CLAMORING FOR OTHER VOICES AND CHOICES. FRANCINE: AND THAT IS UNDENIABLE. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 5%, DO YOU NOT FEEL THAT WITH THE RACE BEING SO CLOSE WITH SIX DAYS FOR THE ELECTION THAT A VOTE FOR YOU WOULD BE A VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP? JILL: ACTUALLY, NOT. I THINK THE ONLY ANSWER IS A TRULY PROGRESSIVE AGENDA AS BERNIE SANDERS HIMSELF SAID. THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THE RIGHT-WING SURGE IS ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE REAL ECONOMIC DRIVERS OF THAT INCREDIBLE STRESS WHICH DRIVES. FRANCINE: EVEN IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT? JILL: I THINK IT IS A RACE TO THE BOTTOM. WHERE DID THE SEARCH COME FROM? IT CAME FROM THE WALL STREET CRASH. THE GROUNDWORK FOR THAT WAS LAID BY THE CLINTONS AND WALL STREET DEREGULATION. I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE OF THE SAME IF THE CLINTONS COME INTO OFFICE. WE WILL SEE MORE OF WHAT HAS BEEN DRIVING THIS INCREDIBLE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP. THE SAME THING IN EUROPE. THIS STUFF DOESN'T COME OUT OF NOWHERE. IT IS GLOBALIZATION AND THE OFF SHORING OF JOBS AND DRIVING DOWN OF WAGES. WE NEED AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR THE ORDINARY PEOPLE. FRANCINE: I UNDERSTAND THAT 100%. BUT COME JANUARY 21 OR JANUARY 22, IT WILL BE USER DONALD TRUMP OR HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE. WHO IS THE LESS OF THE TWO EVILS IN YOUR MIND? JILL: A CHOICE BETWEEN A PROTO-FASCIST AND A WARMONGER. AND EITHER PATHWAY IS EXTREMELY DISRUPTIVE. IT IS IMPORTANT COMING OUT OF THIS RACE THAT WE HAVE MOMENTUM AND THAT WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH H RUE OPPOSITION PARTY. AND MY CAMPAIGN IS ONLY ONE THAT IS NOT CORRUPTED BY LOBBYIST MONEY OR CORPORATE MONEY AND BUY A SUPER PAC. WE HAVE THE ONLY AGENDA THAT ACTUALLY MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND THE SOLUTIONS. TOM: I WANT TO SHOW A SNAPSHOT OF THE REAL ECONOMY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS. BUT THIS MIGHT BE MY CHART OF THE YEAR. THE FOUR YEAR MOVING AVERAGE, WE HAVE GONE FROM AMERICA WITH 4% REAL GDP DOWN AND WE ARE DOWN ALMOST 42% IN ECONOMIC GROWTH , YEAR OVER YEAR, DOWN TO A STUNNING 1.9%. THAT GOES TO THE DEBATE OVER POPULISM. AM I CORRECT THAT WITHIN THE GREEN PARTY, YOU SUGGEST WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE? HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT A CLOSE PRESIDENTIAL RACE VERSUS A DIFFERENT MATHEMATICS? JILL: ABSOLUTELY. I THINK WE GET MUCH CLOSER TO DEMOCRACY AND WE MAKE EVERY VOTE COUNT. TOM: IS THIS TOO MUCH DEMOCRACY? JILL: NO. I BELIEVE WE NEED A VOTING REFORM SO WE ARE NOT TRAPPED BY THE POLITICS. MOST PEOPLE ARE VOTING AGAINST THE CANDIDATE THEY FEAR MOST. BUT WE NEED A MORAL COMPASS AND DEMOCRACY NEEDS OUR VALUES. A SIMPLE REFORM WOULD ALLOW YOU TO RANK YOUR CHOICES. SO IF YOUR FIRST CHOICE LOSES, YOUR VOTE GETS REASSIGNED TO YOUR SECOND CHOICE. THIS IS A NO-BRAINER REFORMS THAT WOULD FREE UP VOTERS TO BRING THEIR VALUE INTO THIS ELECTION? IF WE CAN'T EXPRESS OUR VALUE AND A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, WHEN CAN WE BRING THEM? FRANCINE: YOU FEEL IN ANY WAY THAT YOU WOULD BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO THE FIRST WOMAN BEING ELECTED PRESIDENT? JILL: I THINK THE GREAT ADVANTAGE IN THIS RACE, THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH, IS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHOICE TO VOTE FOR A WOMAN WHO IS NOT AN IMPERIALIST OR A CORPORATIST AND YOU ACTUALLY SUPPORTS AN AGENDA FOR WOMEN. HILLARY CLINTON WALKS THE -- TALKS THE TALK BUT SHE DISMANTLED -- THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET. IT WAS DISSOLVED. AND NOT TO MENTION THE POVERTY

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