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  • 00:00> > LISTEN, I THINK THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD LEAVES SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED. THE FACT IS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND OTHER ALLIES OF OURS TO CONTINUE TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THEIR COUNTRY, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE THE DOMINANT FACTOR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE EVEN LARGER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH. THE CONDUCT OF THE WAR IN YEMEN, HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO FIGHT AGAINST ISIS, HOW WE DEAL WITH SYRIAN REFUGEES, AND OTHER ISSUES INCLUDING BREAKING OFF TO MONETIZE WITH IRAN. -- OFF OF DIPLOMATIC TIES WITH IRAN. JOHN: WHEN YOU SAY LEAVE SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC PRACTICES YOU WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT WAY? > > I THINK GENERALLY WHAT WE FIND IS THAT THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD SAY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AS ACCEPTABLE. THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES AS WELL. BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO GO THROUGH A LAUNDRY LIST. THE FACT IS THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD FROM INSIDE THEIR OWN COUNTRY, WHILE NOT LETTING THAT DOMINATE THE GEOPOLITICAL RELATIONSHIP WE NEED TO HAVE. JOHN: GOVERNOR, YOU, LIKE A LOT OF YOUR REPUBLICAN RIVALS, ARE A LARGE CRITIC OF THE ARABIAN REGIME. -- OF THE IRANIAN REGIME. DO YOU THINK -- ONE WOULD THINK, GIVEN THE EXECUTIONS, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE CRIME, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEM BASED ON THE CRIME. > > I HAVE NO SYMPATHY. JOHN: ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION. IF YOU WERE ELECTED PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU RIP UP THE NUCLEAR DEAL? > > I THINK THAT BY THE TIME I GET TO OFFICE IN JANUARY, 2017, AS IS EVIDENCED BY THE BALLISTIC MISSILE TESTING, THAT THE AGREEMENT WILL BE VIOLATED MULTIPLE TIMES, AND IT WILL BE WORTH THE PAPER IT IS WRITTEN ON ANYWAY. MARK: GOVERNOR, THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH GUNS, IN THE CONTEXT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S EXECUTIVE ACTIONS THAT SEEM TO BE ON DECK. I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR RECORD ON ASSAULT WEAPONS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE EVOLUTION AND HOW IT TOOK PLACE? > > SURE. THE ORIGINAL POSITION I TOOK BACK WELL OVER 20 YEARS AGO HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED GREATLY BY MY TIME AS A PROSECUTOR. DURING THAT TIME, WHEN I BECAME FOCUSED ON WAS DEALING WITH CRIMINALS WITH GUNS, MAKING SURE THAT WE SPENT THE FOCUS OF OUR EFFORT ON GETTING CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET WHO WERE USING GUNS. I DID IT EFFECTIVELY WHEN I WAS AN ATTORNEY, TAKING CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON ACROSS THE URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS. WE DON'T NEED TO BE WORRYING ABOUT CREATING NEW LAWS AS WE TRY TO TAKE GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS. VERY INFLUENCED MY TIME AS A PROSECUTOR. JOHN: IN 2009, YOU SAID YOU WERE MODERATE TO LAST UNDER CONTROL. IS THAT STILL TRUE? > > NO, I DON'T THINK IT IS. AT THE TIME -- I DON'T KNOW WHO I WAS COMPARING MYSELF TO -- BUT THE FACT IS THAT MY RECORD IN NEW JERSEY IS VERY CLEAR. SINCE I HAVE BEEN GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY, I HAVE VETOED THE 50 CALIBER RIFLE BAN. I VETOED THE REDUCTION OF MAGAZINE LIMITS. I'VE PARDONED SIX OUT-OF-STATE FOLKS WHO WERE ARRESTED IN NEW JERSEY FOR HAVING LEGALLY OWNED THE HANDGUNS SOMEPLACE ELSE AND CARRIED IT THROUGH NEW JERSEY. I THINK THAT IS WRONG IN A PARTY AND THOSE PEOPLE. MY RECORD ON GUN ISSUES IN NEW JERSEY I THINK HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR. RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING IN 2010. IT HAS BEEN SUMMED UP IN FIRM LINES. JOHN: BEFORE THAT, YOUR OFFICE PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE THAT TOUTED NEW JERSEY'S RECORD ON GUN CONTROL AND PROMOTED BANNING SALES OF A SPECIFIC TYPE OF ASSAULT RIFLE. HOW DOES THAT SQUARE WITH YOUR GENERAL POSTURE ON THE ISSUE? > > THAT ABSOLUTELY SQUARES. THE FACT IS THAT I HAVE TAKEN THE STEPS I THINK ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS IN NEW JERSEY. ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN NEW JERSEY IS PROTECTED. JOHN: ANOTHER TOPIC IN THE NEWS -- PROTESTERS ARMED IN OREGON. WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS BE TODAY? > > LISTEN, THERE HAS TO BE A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION. THE BALANCE YOU TRY TO REACH IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WHETHER YOU ARE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE GOVERNOR, IS THAT THE LAW HAS TO BE ENFORCED AND FOLLOWED, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO DO SO WITHOUT THE LOSS OF LIFE. THERE SHOULD BE INTENSE DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS AND LISTENING AMONGST BOTH SIDES OF THIS DISPUTE RIGHT NOW TO TRY AND REACH A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TRIED TO DO AS GOVERNOR, AND OTHERS WILL MOST RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE WOULD TRY TO DO. IT IN THE END, THE LAW NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED AND ENFORCED. JOHN: STANDBY, WE WILL BE BACK WITH MORE RIGHT AFTER THIS. ♪ OUT OF STEP WITH THE CONSERVATIVE BASE. JOHN: ON NOT ONE ISSUE? MR. CHRISTIE: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, BUT NO, I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS WHERE YOU MIGHT THINK, OR SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT THINK I AM OUT OF STEP WITH THE REPUBLICAN BASE. I AM A CONSERVATIVE. I HAVE BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE. I DON'T FEEL OUT OF STEP. JOHN: LOOK BA CK ON PAST PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES OF EITHER PARTY, AT EACH INSTANCE , AT SOME POINT IN THEIR CAMPAIGN, THEY CHALLENGED THE BASE OF THEIR PARTY EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE LARGELY IN STEP WITH THE BASE. I JUST WONDER IF THERE IS SOME POINT AT WHICH YOU FEEL THE BASE IS WRONG. YOU CAN SAY HEY, I AM IN LINE WITH MY PARTY ON MOST THINGS, BUT ON THIS ISSUE, I FEEL THE BASE IS WRONG. MR. CHRISTIE: I THINK YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SISTER SOLDIER MOMENT, WHICH ARE KIND OF MANUFACTURED THINGS. I HAVE TRIED TO LEAD THE WAY ON THE ISSUE OF DRUG ADDICTION. AND THE FACT IS, WE NO LONGER NEED TO BE JAILING FIRST TIME, NONVIOLENT, NON-DEALING DRUG OFFENDERS. WE DON'T DO THAT IN NEW JERSEY ANYMORE. WE SEND THEM TO MANDATORY DRUG TREATMENT. I THINK WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM INCARCERATION AS THE SOLUTION FOR NONVIOLENT, NON-DEALING DRUG OFFENDERS. I HAVE BEEN A SOLID, STRONG VOICE ON THAT. WE NEED TO PUT FAMILIES BACK TOGETHER, MAKE SOCIETY MORE PRODUCTIVE. GETTING PEOPLE TREATMENT FOR ADDICTION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A DISEASE THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED, IS SOMETHING I HAVE STEPPED OUT FRONT ON VERY EARLY ON IN MY TIME AS GOVERNOR AND CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR. JOHN: THE FIRST LADY OF NEW JERSEY HAS CAMPAIGNED ACTIVELY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND ELSEWHERE FOR YOU. I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU THINK THE STANDARDS SHOULD BE FOR SCRUTINY OF THE POSITIONS, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THE PUBLIC RELATIONS OF SPOUSES IN THIS RACE. MR. CHRISTIE: WELL, LISTEN, MY WIFE IS A BIG GIRL AND SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT PART OF THE PACKAGE IS THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE ASKED QUESTIONS AND SUBJECT TO SCRUTINY. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE RELEASED OUR TAX RETURNS, AND SEVEN YEARS OF OUR TAX RETURNS BEFORE I BECAME GOVERNOR. NOW YOU HAVE 12 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS OUT THERE ON MYSELF AND MY WIFE. WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT MY WIFE FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE 12 YEARS HAS EARNED MORE THAN ME. IF SHE IS READY TO BE SCRUTINIZED ABOUT THAT, GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS. JOHN: DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF BILL CLINTON, FOR INSTANCE. I JUST WONDER IF YOU THINK THAT ANY SPOUSE OR SPOUSES CAMPAIGNING IS FAIR GAME OR IF YOU THINK THERE IS A LINE POLITICIANS SHOULD DRAW FOR EACH OTHER, FOR SPOUSES AS OPPOSED TO CANDIDATES? MR. CHRISTIE: I THINK YOU HAVE TO JUDGE THAT INDIVIDUAL BY INDIVIDUAL AND CIRCUMSTANCE BY CIRCUMSTANCE. I THINK THAT HAS TO BE JUDGED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. I CAN ONLY SAY THAT MARY PAT HAS BEEN USED TO GETTING SCRUTINY FROM THE MEDIA IN THE NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, PHILADELPHIA AREA, AND WE WILL BE USED TO GETTING SCRUTINY AS I ROLL ON TOWARDS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION. MARK: IS THE LINE OF CRITICISM IN THE PERSONAL NATURE OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING ABOUT BILL CLINTON, IS THAT FAIR GAME? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BRING UP IN THE CONTEXT OF RUNNING AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON? MR. CHRISTIE: I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST IN OUR COUNTRY. AND OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. I DON'T KNOW THAT RELITIGATING BILL CLINTON'S PERSONAL LIFE IS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE EXPENDITURE OF TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR MOVING OUR COUNTRY FORWARD. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD BE ALL THAT INTERESTED IN, BUT EVERY CANDIDATE HAS TO MAKE THEIR OWN JUDGMENT AND THEN BE READY FOR THE SCRUTINY THAT COMES BACK AT THEM FOR THE JUDGMENTS THEY MAKE. JOHN: YOU MADE A SPEECH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. ONE PHRASE JUMPED OFF THE PAGE TO MY EYE. "THE CARNIVAL BARKER'S OF TODAY." WHO WERE YOU THINKING OF? MR. CHRISTIE: A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. BOTH WHO ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND WHO ARE COMMENTING ON THIS RACE FOR PRESIDENT AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OTHERS, WHO ONLY CARE MORE ABOUT TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK THEY WANT TO HEAR RATHER THAN WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW. MARK: WHO ARE YOU THINKING OF? MR. CHRISTIE: IF I WANTED TO NAME NAMES DURING THE SPEECH I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE. JOHN: YOU COULD ELABORATE. YOU COULD TELL IT LIKE IT IS RIGHT HERE. MR. CHRISTIE: AND I DID. I TOLD IT LIKE IT WAS TODAY IN THE SPEECH. ANYBODY WHO HAS TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THAT AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS NOT BEEN OBSERVING THE RACE CLOSELY. JOHN: IT IS BEING REPORTED BY NATIONAL REVIEW THAT MARCO RUBIO IS GOING TO RUN TWO ADS AGAINST YOU IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TOMORROW. I WISH I HAD MORE DETAILS FOR YOU ON THAT. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AND OF BECOMING NEGATIVE ADS PRESUMABLY AGAINST YOU AND OTHERS IN THIS FIGHT IN THE COMING MONTHS. MR. CHRISTIE: I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MARCO WHO SO INDIGNANTLY LOOK TO JEB BUSH AND SET I GUESS SOMEBODY MUST HAVE CONVINCED YOU -- SAID I GUESS SOMEBODY MUST HAVE CONVINCED YOU THAT GOING NEGATIVE AGAINST ME HELPS YOU. THE FACT IS, LISTEN, I STAND BY MY RECORD AS GOVERNOR IN NEW JERSEY. IT IS A GOOD ONE. WE'VE HAD THE GREATEST PRIVATE-SECTOR JOB GROWTH THAT NEW JERSEY HAS HAD AN 15 YEARS, NEARLY CUT UNEMPLOYMENT AND HALF. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF SENATOR RUBIO WOULD SHOW UP FOR WORK EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE -- HE ONLY HAS ONE JOB. HE HAS TO CAST VOTES IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. IF YOU THINKS THAT IS A WORTHLESS JOB, AS HE HAS SAID BEFORE, HE SHOULD RESIGN. MARK: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, IT IS A SUPER PAC SUPPORTING SENATOR RUBIO, NOT THE CAMPAIGN ITSELF. I KNOW THAT DISTINCTION WILL NOT MEAN MUCH. MR. CHRISTIE: OF COURSE. MARK: THANK YOU. JOHN: CHRIS CHRISTIE UP IN
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