What the Encryption King Thinks of NSA Spying

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March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Phil Zimmermann, president and co-founder of Silent Circle, discusses the U.S. government surveillance program with Pimm Fox on Bloomberg Television's "Taking Stock." (Source: Bloomberg)

D.c. i wonder if you could comment on what is your reaction to the meeting taking place at the white house?

How come you were not invited, or maybe you were?

[laughter] yet, i was not invited this time.

Maybe next time.

--no, i was not invited this time.

Maybe next time.

I'm glad to see a dialogue between the administration and industry because i think industry has suffered from the snowden revelations.

The nsa policy has affected -- around the world -- everyone else's view of american companies.

Having said that, phil, is a possible to make the case that other countries around the world are doing exactly what the nsa is doing?

Yes, they are.

All the other major companies have intelligence agencies that are engaged in overreach.

We found out about hours because of snowden.

If there were snowdens in other countries, we would find out about theirs, too.

Your contention would be what?

Because we have this information we as citizens should be holding the government accountable for the collection and use of this information?

Yes, we should.

We should respond to this information by pushing back and trying to rein in the nsa and hope that the europeans will press their own governments to do the same.

Should we go ahead and do this even if those hopes do not materialize into reality?

We are responsible for what happens in the united states.

We have a democracy here, or we are supposed to.

We should exercise the tools we have in that democracy to try to rein in our intelligence agencies.

If we allow this to go on without pushing back, we're going to see our society turn into a synoptic on.

Phil zimmerman, one of the things you have looked into is the number -- the amount of surveillance going on on a daily basis.

The number of computers able to survey individuals, that power doubles every 18 months.

Is that accurate?

Across the processing goes down over time.

That is moore's law.

The computer power doubles every 18 months.

Whereas the population does not keep up with that.

So, you could say that moore's law is a threat to privacy.

All of these video cameras have facial recognition software behind them.

Traffic cameras have optical character recognition software, keeping track of where we are driving our cars, our travel, our financial transactions.

All of these sources of surveillance information being drawn together and fused into total information awareness omniscience.


We are going to do something about that.

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