Obama’s Executive Orders Are Small Ideas: Gutierrez

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Jan. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Carlos Gutierrez, former U.S. Secretary of Commerce, discusses immigration reform and President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address on Bloomberg Television’s “Bloomberg Surveillance.”

Have you ever put through an executive order, ramp policy through congress?

We did not have to do that.

Some things we did, like the fisheries and noaa, where we have direct jurisdiction but not things that would have to go to congress.

What would be the significance of the president going along question -- alone?

I think the ideas get smaller.

Whatever he does alone i think would be a small idea because if it were big it would go through congress.

I think ideas and initiatives are getting smaller and smaller.

One big idea he is still working on his immigration reform.

Here is what he had to say.

If we are serious about economic growth, it is time to heat the call of business leaders, -- he the call of business leaders, faith leaders, law enforcement, and fix our broken immigration system.

When people come here to fulfill their dreams, study, contribute to our culture, they make our country more attractive place for businesses to locate and create jobs for every body.

So, let's get immigration reform done this year.

John boehner and the republicans actually did applaud when the president urged for a fix of the immigration system.

What is the path ahead for a bipartisan compromise?

I think it is very close.

This idea of citizenship is a red herring.

It is not real.

What we are looking at his, one side says 13 years for citizenship and the other side says we already have a pathway so you can't really define how much time it will take, just go with the process and get to the back of the line and don't cut in.

Of the details.

But they are making it into -- republicans don't want citizenship.

Can i rip up the script?

I thought it was rude to you and many other americans, your republican party is parsing -- explain it to me, scarlet come and not citizenship but have citizenship.

Here is the thing.

Both sides have said -- when folks get legalized, they should follow the process and they should not cut in.

That has been the principal on both sides.

The president is saying 13 years.

That breaks the principal because who knows what will be in 13 years?

That is the only difference.

We only have a pathway to citizenship.

We don't have a pathway to legalization.

I sat in davos with a guy a lot like you who says he is a ceo.

In america it has an asterisk next to it because he is a minority but when he goes to doorposts -- davos he is an american.

I think we go through it every single generation.

We learn and history takes over and eventually, you know, it wins, immigration wins and diversity wins.

But we go through this every time.

We don't learn from history.

Every generation, we don't learn from our history.

Carlos gutierrez with us.

Matthew dowd will join us intimate.

-- in a bit.

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