NSA Using Radio Waves to Spy on Offline Computers?

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Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) –- Pivot Acquisition Corp. Chairman and Former Apple CEO John Sculley and Bloomberg’s Chris Strohm discuss how the government is allegedly spying on offline computers with Emily Chang and Stephanie Ruhle on Bloomberg Television's "Street Smart." (Source: Bloomberg)

Story, the united states government can get into computers ends eye on computers that are not even connected to the internet hearing -- into computers and spy on computers that are not even connected to the internet.

The u.s. is able to insert exploits into devices before they are actually shipped abroad.

This would be the company basically -- covering products basically being asks us -- being accessed by government officials.

The other way is that you have essentially some kind of a device, like a usb drive that is attached to a computer, and that begins to excellent trait data -- begins to exfiltrate data and send it back to the u.s. government.

John, what you think?

A few years ago, when the israelis presently, with some help from the u.s. government, were able to break into the iranian nuclear development center and did it without wires, this was kind of a breakthrough in technology that we really didn't quite understand.

This sounds an awful lot to me like the stock net technology.

What you think, chris?

I agree with you.

It had the capability to essentially phone home, which is the ability for the malware to be able to receive commands and distribute information back to a central point.

And that was kind of one of the biggest exploits that kind of reshaped the debate over cyber security.

It showed that you are not just talking about malware that is on computers just to kind of monitor what is happening there.

You're talking about malware that can actually cause physical distraction.

Because the virus was intended to wipe out the iranian centrifuges.

Since then, there has been a lot of concern obviously inside the u.s. government about the capabilities of adversaries to kind of bring that back to the u.s.. is this all way too much information?

John, could we say that, edward stoneman, you may have cracked something, but something we didn't need to know?

We may not need to know everything.

But it is one of the rare examples in government in our democratic system which you know is messy and sometimes inefficient, but sometimes it works pragmatically.

My guess is that it may take a few years.

But as a bipartisan effort, our government will figure this thing out.

And we will come up with rules that we can live with.

At the same time, it won't eliminate our ability to be able to track the things we really need to track.

So it's not going away.

It may go away from the headlines in the news, but it will go away in terms of its use by the nsa.

We had an 18-tweet series about this very thing saying we are increasingly on some collective thinking couch.

Oh, my word,, i can't believe that spy agencies spy.

On the one hand, they are supposed to catch the bad guys.

On the other hand, they are being told don't spy.

I went to simulate a university.

One of the programs we had there was on cyber crime.

And the estimates they had was that about 15% of the r&d spent in the world every year goes into criminal type it to these that is done by criminals, very smart technical people in places like china and russia and eastern european countries.

This ain't going away.

I think we do have to have some level of security surveillance.

It probably be a lot more control than may be limited from what we had before.

But it is not going away.

Do you want to make a final point?

Everybody is watching obama

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