NSA Ties Hagel’s Hands on Cybersecurity: Falkenrath

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April 8 (Bloomberg) -- Bloomberg Contributing Editor Richard Falkenrath discusses why the United States can’t push China too far for more transparency on cybersecurity on Bloomberg Television’s “Bloomberg Surveillance.”

How urgent is it now versus 12 months ago?

It is still urgent.

Secretary hagel is making a less big deal out of it then he would have pre-snowdon.

One year ago, before the snowdon revelations, the dialogue was one-sided and the united states accusing china of sponsoring massive industrial scale cyber attacks against the whole world.

We were fairly upfront about it.

Meanwhile, we were secretly developing our own capabilities.

There is no way the secretary of defense can now come in with the moral high ground on the cyber security argument because of the revelations of our own electronic surveillance program.

I'm fascinated by the changing dialogue with ukraine between china, russia and russia-china.

Is there a renewed relationship there you go or the same old?

It has evolved considerably.

Vladimir putin, the chinese are familiar with.

They're not likely to be surprised by this sort of behavior.

They have been the quietest in response to the annexation of ukraine.

No chinese reaction whatsoever.

They have abstained from the u.n. vote.

They correctly assess they have no religion and there are leverage.

Going back to chinese capabilities and cyber war.

How are america's capabilities compared to the chinese on that lovely echo how do the chinese capabilities in hard power infrastructure compare with america's? nobody knows on the cyber security side because there's never been a conflict.

Both states have proven their ability to ask full trait data from the targets quite successfully.

We have targeted the chinese and they have targeted us.

Their program is more indiscriminate and involves a greater gray area of quasi-actors who target economic and industrial this oldies and companies.

-- facilities and companies.

It is rare for the u.s. government to actually go after a company for economic information.

It is white rare for large scale cyber security to operate in the u.s. the chinese aircraft carrier was a soviet aircraft carrier that they bought from the ukraine.

Talk about.

. full-- talk about.

Circle.

Information operations have been a part of u.s. foreign policy forever.

There is a view their that information should flow and get out.

I have no problem with it.

The embarrassing part is, this came out.

It is the most recent manifestation of what used to be -- broadcasting out of miami.

It was the social change -- cuba is not a democracy.

It is a difficult relationship with the u.s. it is not policy to broadcast information into foreign countries.

We're looking at our agendas.

You want to hit on another troubled region, ukraine.

You saw in the market with the market moves and the cranium currency, which really shows the challenges that the west has in funding ukraine before they go belly up.

The backdrop of that, the protests come a which are tangible.

The word for the day is spontaneous.

A spontaneous market makers at 10:00 a.m. right now, there are spontaneous protests.

You have lived and worked extensively in regions that have been troubled.

How do you bu do business in

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