Every Company Has a Next Steve Jobs: Bushnell

Successes.

One of the greatest is hiring steve jobs.

Basically, you want to be a meritocracy.

Do not care how people look, how they smell, do not care about whether they have a degree or not.

Just hire for intensity and the rest of it can take care of itself.

Take us back, how did he look, how did he smell, what struck you?

[laughter] steve had one speed, on.

He was intense, aggressive, he did passion really well.

You quote the american philosopher frank zappa in your book, you talk about the process of finding creative people.

What are some of the things that all of these assured self-help books get wrong?

So many things.

Most of it has to do with the fact that being truly created is being a little bit of an outlier.

Some would say being a bit of a not -- nut.

You have to be on the edge.

That is not a place where a lot of people are comfortable.

I love this from your book.

This is not from mr.

Bushnell.

Why do hobbies matter?

These are self driven things, things that people become passionate about, just because they are passionate about life.

I would much rather hire somebody who was a self-taught computer programmer, then a phd in computer science, every time.

You mentioned earlier, do not pay too much attention to the degree that people get.

Peter thiel decided to give fellowships to students who dropped out of school to pursue the program.

It has not yielded any superstar talent yet, it is early, but the idea that you have to go to school to learn to manage people , doesn't education play a role there?

I think higher education, in particular, has really dropped the ball.

It has become extremely irrelevant.

The speed by which today's industry moves means that what you learned in college today is probably five, maybe 10 years out of date.

When you were in school, when i was in school, a quality c mattered.

Have we lost the rigor?

The very accreditation process slows the curriculum.

But you can meet other people who have been mentors, who have made the mistakes already.

Absolutely.

The people right now who are driven cannot put up with the busywork and the baloney that you get in college.

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