Einhorn: Unimaginable U.S. Defaults on Debt

So many investors right now are making money through this period where the president said, listen, think could be really rough in the market, and they have not been.

It does not mean david einhorn is not massively disappointed with the political gridlock.

It is unimaginable that we will go through the deadline and they are going to default on the debt.

Frankly, i think even not working this out so the government does not shutdown is really bad enough.

Particularly since it does not seem like they all sat down to try to actually work through the differences.

That is sort of the tone in washington right now.

It is a real shame.

Betty, he doesn't think there is any way we would breach the that limit but he is surprised we are where we are in the shutdown.

But they are speaking to, it does not seem like many are concerned we will see a real u.s. default here.

What else did einhorn say about his investments?

We had a chance to talk about green out in coffee.

It has not been the easiest short.

Somewhat of a regulatory short.

Herbalife.

He thinks there is monkey business in the accounting practices and he is wondering whether someone else will ring the bell.

Is this the case?

Take a look at it has been one of the tougher things that has gone on in our portfolio this year.

Really, the books are over caffeinated, if you will.

The company says it sells a lot of coffee.

No doubt they sell a lot of coffee.

We don't think they sell near as much as they say and there are some real discrepancies in the accounts.

Keep in mind, betty, we are talking about the k-cups, and the patent expired and you see many producers making them.

People -- even if people are doing as much coffee as green mountain says they are, they have a lot of competition dance competition.

It has not been the easiest trade for mr.

Einhorn but he is patient.

We do not get a chance to talk about apple, another big name of his.

He will be presenting at a big investor conference and i am sure he will have a lot of insight.

Thank you, stephanie, for bringing that.

Stephanie ruhle.

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