Constituents Don’t Want Healthcare Law: Rep Johnson

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Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Rep. Bill Johnson, an Ohio Republican and David Walker, former U.S. comptroller general discuss the latest on the budget battle on Capitol Hill, the prospect of a government shutdown and what should take the place of a debt ceiling in the United States. They speak on Bloomberg Television’s “In The Loop.”

Report -- "countdown to the shutdown." with more on how the shutdown will play out, republican congressman bill johnson joins me now.

Also, former republican senator john sununu and david walker, former comptroller general of the united states.

Representative johnson, i will start with you.

Where do things set right now?

The senate is meeting at 2:00 p.m. and the expectation is that they will send it over to you and the house because senate majority leader harry reid says it is a nonstarter when you look at defining the affordable care act.

We really don't know what condition it is going to come back in.

We hope that the senate takes the appropriate action and considers the legislation that we have sent to them that the american people made it very clear on 2 issues.

They are concerned about the affordable care act, and they don't want the federal government shutdown.

We sent them legislation to remedy both.

It depends on what the senate does when it comes back this afternoon.

What are your constituents telling you?

My constituents tell me they don't want the health-care law.

They are seeing skyrocketing premiums and access problems.

Remember, ever-present a very rural district.

When you have institutions like the cleveland than a, which my constituents have to travel hours to get to -- the cleveland clinic, which my constituents have been travel hours to get, cutting their budget and laying off hundreds come -- strict access to people in my district that depend on the medical facility.

You see a government shutdown is a risk you are willing to take?

I certainly don't see that as desirable.

The only people talking about shutting down the federal government is the president and the democrats in the senate.

The proof of that is that we were here all week long.

We were prepared to work to find a way to avoid this.

Where was the senate?

David walker, as we have been talking about all morning, the real issue is whether or not the united states of america will default on its debt by not raising the debt ceiling.

Do you think that an actual shutdown is going to put enough political pressure on republicans and democrats alike to avert a crisis when it comes to the debt ceiling?

The battle ought to be over what funding should be for the year and what to do about the debt ceiling.

A reasonable compromise now is to have a short-term cr that makes all of those things come together.

We ultimately need to replace the debt ceiling with a debt-to- gdp limit.

We're the only country on earth that has the debt ceiling.

We need a credit card women and that is debt-to-gdp.

Will without be?

-- what would that be?

I would have a credit card limit that would not go over 90- 100% of gdp.

We are on path to exceed that based on current policy.

What we would have his progrowth policies that would require fiscal constraint.

We should substitute that with statutory control like we had in the 1990s to keep us from getting their.

Is and that another way of saying -- go ahead, david.

If we declare war, like we haven't done since world war ii, you should be an exception, and if you get a super majority vote in the house and senate and a signature from the president, and exception.

I will be very tough to get.

Senator sununu, do we need to revamp our budget rules?

We do.

No question about it.

David made a couple of great points, great approaches.

It is not mean those are the only ones.

But those are fundamental changes that might make the budget process easier.

Less political?

Maybe a little less political.

Easier to manage, let's say.

There are a number of issues that could be dealt with this year.

In order for all of those to be put together in a package, you need a president that is willing to negotiate on different parameters.

That brings us to the attitude of no negotiations on any issue anytime, anyway, on the debt ceiling by this continuing resolution.

It makes it tougher and tougher to do with a long-term fiscal announces.

-- to deal with the long-term fiscal imbalances.

Is really a standoff where neither side wants to come together.

Why can't the tea party relent on some of these issues?

It is not just about the tea party.

This is what the american people are saying.

We and house of representatives -- our job is to represent the voice the american people that senator.

-- that sent us here.

The dish it not about sitting in the white house -- leadership is not about sitting in the white house.

It is about producing the results.

If you are a leader, you don't get to take your ball and go home.

You have to sit around a table and find common ground.

David made a good point, too.

This is no way to run a government.

We have not been able to pass a budget because the senate will not come to the table seriously and negotiate over our physical -- what is your prediction for the debt ceiling?

Do you think we will raise it or will it be the next issue after the shutdown?

We want to make sure that america stays true to its obligations.

There is no question about that.

We have got to go back to the foundations that put this debt in there in the first place.

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